Let's talk about Jews and Israel
Ok, vous ne savez pas quoi rétorquer lorsque ça pète au proche orient face à vos collègues de travail, ou vos amis qui vous sortent qu'Israël est quand même un peu coupable, qu'ils ont volé des terres etc ?
Pas de panique, vous avez juste besoin d'un argumentaire couteau-suisse ...
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Have the Jews always been attached to Israel?
1. Attachment to the land of Israel and in particular to Jerusalem is central to Jewish religion and culture.
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King David made Jerusalem his capital 3000 years ago.
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The Western Wall (or Western Wall), the last vestige of the Temple of Jerusalem, remains the most sacred place of Judaism today.
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2. Despite exiles, persecutions and expulsions, Jews have maintained an almost uninterrupted presence in Israel.
In the 19th century, they made up the largest community in Jerusalem, and 61.9% of the population in 1892.
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3. At all times they have tried to come back, but it was very difficult. They were poor and unorganized, the trips were long and insecure. Some thought that we had to wait for the Messiah to return to Israel.
Why did Jews not return to Israel until the 19th century?
1. It was not until the 19th century that nationalism appeared in the world.
The Jews want a state to protect and flourish.
Before the 19th century, the notion of nationalism did not exist and Jews could live (and sometimes survive) in the surrounding societies.
With the rise of nationalism, the Jews are among the only ones who do not have a state.
2. Zionism is the political realization of a religious and cultural aspiration to establish a Jewish home in Israel.
Individuals have found themselves in the majority in a given space and time, at a time of turbulence linked to decolonization affecting all surrounding countries, and have self-determined.
3. In a way, and very far from conspiratorial fantasies, we can say that the political objectives of Zionism were achieved in 1948, with the independence of the Jews.
Is Zionism a Form of Colonialism?
1. Zionism is not a form of colonialism because the implantation of the Jews of Europe, Asia and Africa was not ordered by a European power like the French colonists in Algeria.
The land of Israel concealed no raw material and no strategic interest.
2. For their part, the Arab rulers of the time were much more supported by the English and French colonialists than the Zionists.
3. If Israel has acquired territories, it is at the end of wars provoked by the refusal of a Jewish state by the surrounding Arab countries. He also withdrew from territories to achieve peace (Sinai returned to Egypt, autonomous cities to the Palestinians, withdrawal from southern Lebanon).
What is Israel's international legitimacy?
1. The League of Nations (League of Nations) had enacted as early as 1920 binding legal acts according to which Jews had the right to a national home in Israel / Palestine.
2. Moreover, all the Arab states in the region (Iraq, Jordan, Syria, etc.) derive their legal legitimacy from their creation by the League of Nations. in the same era.
3. After the Second World War, the UN conferred unquestionable legal legitimacy on Israel by passing a resolution in favor of its creation (No. 181).
Almost every state in the world has recognized this state.
Was the State of Israel created because of the Holocaust?
1. This is false, since as early as 1920, the League of Nations had provided for the constitution of a form of State for the Jews.
2. In addition, in 1937, a first plan for the constitution of a Jewish mini-state had already been proposed (Peel Commission).
3. Without the Shoah, the pressures to form a safe haven state would have been even stronger as 6 million more Jews would have been looking for a home.
Did the Shoah then play no role in the creation of the State of Israel?
1. After the 39/45 war, Westerners found themselves with thousands of deportees who had narrowly escaped death. Since they did not want to welcome them, they needed a state in which to settle them.
2. The Holocaust had a moral impact on some Western leaders who became aware of the suffering of the Jewish people.
3. The Shoah rallied the majority of Diaspora Jews, especially Americans, to Zionism, the necessity of which they had hitherto sometimes disputed.
Did the Arab rulers of the time bear some responsibility for the genocide of the Jews?
1. Yes, since the mufti of Jerusalem, Hadj Amin El Husseini, joined the Nazis.
He rallied Berlin in 1941, encouraged the extermination of Jewish refugees in Palestine and declared to Radio Berlin in 1944:
"Kill the Jews wherever you find them, for the love of God, of history and of religion."
2. In the few occupied Arab and Muslim countries, there were as many collaborators (and as few resistance fighters) as in the Christian countries (Bosnian Muslim criminal squads, Iraqi and Egyptian fascists, etc.).
3. Even today, many Muslim political and religious leaders hold denialist remarks, that is to say denying the Shoah (the Iranian guide Khamenei, the mufti of Jerusalem Ikrema Sabri, the Syrian and Egyptian government press, etc. .)
Mein Kampf remains a bestseller in the Arab world ...
Why did the Arab armies attack Israel in 1948?
1. The Arab rulers started the war because they believed they were going to win it.
You always start a war hoping to win it.
They wanted to wipe the young state of Israel off the map.
2. With 5 well-trained armies, Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Iraq and their local Palestinian allies, they were persuaded to crush those few thousand Jews without international support and overwhelmed with refugees from Nazism. .
3. The Arab States considered their own borders, drawn by the League of Nations and the UN, as artificial.
They hoped to be able not only to swallow the State of Israel but also the Palestinian State envisaged by the UN.
Arab rulers have
ultimately never wanted the emergence of a Palestinian state.
Was the attack by Arab armies on Israel in 1948 genocidal?
1. Yes. If the Arab armies had won the 1948 War, they would have "driven the Israelis back to sea" because they had offered no other solution for them.
2. In many public speeches, Arab leaders called for the systematic killing of Israelis.
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3. Until the wars of 1967, (6 days) On Egyptian radio, the singer Oum Kalsoum chanted songs calling for "to throw the Jews into the sea" and to "slaughter them".
In 1947, were the Arab leaders right to reject the Palestinian state from the UN Partition Plan?
1. No, because the Palestinian State would have regrouped the majority of the Arab populations and the best lands of Samaria and Galilee, as well as unlimited access to the international zone of Jerusalem.
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2. In addition, the Arab rulers had already succeeded in 1920 in extracting Jordan from the territory intended for the Jewish National Home, contrary to the British promises contained in the Balfour Declaration of 1917.
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3. Israel was only allocated a tiny piece of land of less than 15,000 km2, the desert region of the Negev, as well as land already purchased by the Jewish pioneers: a thin strip around Tel Aviv and some swampy areas around Tiberias.
Is Israel responsible for the problem of the Palestinian refugees?
1. No, because without the genocidal war waged by the Arab armies in 1948, there would have been no refugees, since the majority of Palestinians had to live in the Palestinian state provided for by the UN.
2. Israel has not carried out any "ethnic cleansing". There is no document attesting that such an order was issued by an Israeli authority.
3. Today there are over a million Palestinian citizens of the State of Israel. This is further proof that they were not drawn into exile.
Why were there still 700,000 Palestinian refugees?
1. The local Arab populations had been convinced by the propaganda of their leaders that they were going to win the war. Yet their leaders had not prepared decentralized self-defense militias like the Israelis.
2. In this context, the beginnings of Israeli victory caused enormous panic and stampede among the Palestinians, which happens in all the wars of the world (ex-Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, etc.).
3. In two marginal cases, the Israeli army evacuated part of the Arab population from the towns of Ramleh and Lod.
But there were also many voluntary departures, as the Filastin newspaper wrote on 19.5.49: "The Arab states encouraged the Arabs of Palestine to leave their homes temporarily so as not to hinder the advance of the Arab armies."
Do the Palestinians have a
"right of return"?
1. No, United Nations resolution 194 of December 1948 does not mention the notion of
"right of return". It envisages different solutions for refugees, such as their settlement in Israel or their compensation or resettlement elsewhere.
Palestinian refugees live in miserable camps in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and the Gulf countries. Only Jordan granted them nationality and equal treatment.
2. The demand for a so-called "right of return" for 3.5 million Palestinian refugees inside Israel is a way of killing the State of Israel by the demographic weapon.
3. A humane solution is nonetheless necessary. In Taba, in December 2000, the Barak government agreed to welcome nearly 100,000, primarily from Lebanon. The rest could settle in the unborn Palestinian state.
Why do we never talk about Jewish refugees from Arab countries?
1. Between 1948 and 1958, around 900,000 Jews were driven out or fled from Arab countries in the Near East and North Africa:
265,000 in Morocco,
140,000 in Algeria,
135,000 in Iraq,
105,000 in Tunisia,
75,000 in Egypt,
55,000 in Yemen,
38,000 in Libya
30,000 in Syria.
2. They have all been stripped of their citizenship and often deprived of their property.
3. No international aid, like that of the UN to the Palestinians, has been granted to them to integrate into their host countries, in particular Israel (650,000 refugees), France and Canada.
They received the support and solidarity of the only Jewish communities to rebuild their lives after the expulsion.
Are Arabs and Muslims discriminated against in Israel?
1. More than a million Arabs enjoy all the rights of the citizen.
At the end of 2001, there was an Arab minister in the government, Salah Tarif, as well as 13 deputies in Parliament.
2. It is remarkable that after more than 50 years of genocidal hostility, there is no "apartheid" and that Israeli Arabs can reside anywhere, have access to all public services and exercise all professions.
3. Apart from the Druze, Israeli Arabs do not serve in the military where they would be at odds with their Palestinian brethren in a context of entrenched conflict.
However, improvements in the living conditions of Arabs are still possible.
Why was the Palestinian state not created in the West Bank and Gaza between 1948 and 1967?
1. Jordan and Egypt, which occupied the West Bank and Gaza respectively, absolutely refused to cede these territories to the Palestinians to build a state there.
2. The Palestinians feared that establishing a Palestinian state only in the West Bank and Gaza would diminish their legitimacy to destroy the state of Israel.
3. Palestinians had not yet developed a specifically Palestinian national consciousness, many saw themselves primarily as Arabs, Southern Syrians or sometimes as Jordanians.
Jordan is made up of 80% Palestinians and 20% Hashemites. The King of Jordan is ... Hashemite!
Why did Israel start the Six-Day War?
1. Egypt and Syria had created a climate of hatred by increasing the rhetoric aimed at destroying Israel. They had merged their countries into a United Arab Republic, had cut off access to the port of Eilat and withdrawn the peacekeepers who were to prevent an Egyptian attack.
2. The Palestinians had stepped up terrorist incursions to kill as many Jewish civilians as possible and demoralize the Israelis, while leading to retaliations that isolated Israel by international condemnation.
3. Jordan, which had been drawn into a joint military command with Egypt and Syria, had bombed the Jewish quarters of Jerusalem, despite Israel's clear and repeated demands not to go to war.
Does UN Resolution 242 of 1967 provide for the withdrawal from all occupied territories?
1 . By design, the English version, which alone is authentic, uses the term "withdrawal OF territories" ( "withdrawal of Israeli Forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict") and not "withdraw OF territories."
Minor territorial modifications are therefore possible.
2. When Egypt seriously wanted to make peace, Israel withdrew from all of Sinai (approx. 80% of the disputed territories).
In the spring of 2000, Syria had refused Barak's offer to return the Golan Heights in exchange for demilitarization.
3. In December 2000, Barak agreed to a withdrawal from the West Bank, Gaza and Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem.
Israel annexed the three most important settlements and in return gave the Palestinians an equivalent area of 180 km2.
Arafat refused ...
The territorial stake therefore comes down to half of a Swiss or French municipality.
Why are there Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza?
1. After the Six-Day War, Jewish settlements were aimed at slowing an attack from Jordan, Syria and Egypt in order to allow sufficient time to recall reservists.
A risk confirmed by the declaration of the Arab League in Khartoum in September 1967:
The 3 "no's" of Khartoum :
"No to peace, no to recognition, no to negotiation with Israel."
2. In the region of Jerusalem, the settlements (the "Jewish quarters") aimed to open up the Jewish part which was completely surrounded by Jordan until 1967.
3. After the surprise attack on Yom Kippur (1973), Israeli nationalists considered that there was no hope of peace and that it was now legitimate to build settlements in historically Jewish places (Hebron).
Why are the Israelis so obsessed with their security?
1. Since its creation, the State of Israel has had to fight against the genocidal wars of its Arab neighbors.
Losing one of those wars meant disappearing from the map.
2. The main cities of Israel are only 500 meters (Jerusalem) and 12 km (Tel Aviv) from a future Palestinian state.
Any new surprise attack (type Yom Kippur War) would be catastrophic.
3. Israel takes very seriously the calls for its destruction and for anti-Semitic hatred broadcast daily in schools, mosques and the Palestinian, Iraqi, Syrian and Egyptian media in particular.
Is Ariel Sharon responsible for the massacre of Sabra and Chatila?
1. The vile massacre of hundreds of Palestinians in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon (September 16-18, 1982) was committed by Christian militias who sought revenge for the terrorist assassination of their leader, the President Lebanese Bechir Gemayel, and other horrific collective crimes committed by Palestinian militias.
Sabra et Chatila is the story of a vendetta by Lebanese Christians against Palestinian Arabs who had annexed Lebanon
The main responsible for this massacre is the Christian commander Elie Hobeika . But, in the meantime, he has become a protégé of the Arab world because he rallied to the Syrian occupier and thanks to that he participated in several of the governments of the puppet Lebanese state.
2. In 1982, Ariel Sharon was then defense minister and asked his Christian allies to verify that weapons were not hidden in these camps in violation of an agreement that had been signed by the PLO.
The Independent Commission (Kahane) concluded its careful investigation by asserting that Sharon was not responsible for this crime.
3. He nevertheless bears an indirect responsibility for the "lightness" with which he had neglected the risks of "vendetta" in a country marked by a bloodthirsty civil war.
The equation "Sharon, executioner of Sabra and Shatila" is only a manipulation of Arab propaganda to demonize Israel and justify the Palestinians' recourse to violence and terrorism rather than negotiation.
Why has Israel long been opposed to the creation of a Palestinian state?
1. Until 1993, the PLO Charter expressly provided for the destruction of the State of Israel and a genocidal plan against the Israelis.
The Palestinian leadership encouraged terrorism.
Reminder: terrorism consists in terrorizing innocent civilian populations.
2. The Palestinian state would have been an outpost of Soviet and Communist imperialism.
The Israelis have long believed that it was possible to come to terms with Jordan or with more moderate Palestinian leadership.
3. The current Hamas, an Islamist entity equivalent to Daesh which reigns in Gaza, has not renounced in its charter the total disappearance of Israel
Why do the Israelis say the Palestinians are hypocritical about terrorism?
1. The Palestinian leaders certainly condemn the terrorist attacks in front of the Western media, but their speeches in Arabic for internal use remain completely belligerent.
2. They legitimize the attacks by systematically attributing responsibility to "the policy of Israeli oppression" and by suggesting that the Mossad is the instigator of these crimes.
The Palestinian leaders refuse to arrest the perpetrators or instigators of attacks, especially within Hamas or Islamic Jihad.
They free those in prison, encourage indiscriminate violence and glorify the "martyrs" who carry out suicide attacks.
They educate children to hate through textbooks paid for by the European Union containing paroxysmal hatred.
Several attacks were carried out by factions of the Palestinian Authority, which is a shame considering that Oslo involved renouncing violence.
Does Israel practice "state terrorism"?
1. Israel does not practice "state terrorism" because it never targets people who are not combatants in action.
Nonetheless, in more than 50 years of retaliation, there has been collateral damage that has always been the subject of apology requests.
It should be noted that one of the strategies of the Palestinians is to put forward, even as human shields, their civilian populations and their children.
This serves as fuel for a miserable propaganda which are fond of several media respecting an anti-Zionist line, in accordance with the realpolitik of their states of membership.
2. The USA and European states are also responsible for collateral damage in Kosovo and Afghanistan. Since the attacks of Bin Laden of September 11, 2001, they join the Israeli position and consider that it is legitimate to exercise reprisals against the States which shelter terrorists.
3. YES, Israel seeks to physically eliminate the instigators and perpetrators of the attacks that the Palestinian Authority refuses to stop by protecting them against the action of justice.
The notion of "state terrorism" is in fact an Arab propaganda term to trivialize Palestinian terrorism.
Why do the Israelis say the Palestinians are hypocritical about terrorism?
1. The Palestinian leaders certainly condemn the terrorist attacks in front of the Western media, but their speeches in Arabic for internal use remain completely belligerent.
2. They legitimize the attacks by systematically attributing responsibility to "the policy of Israeli oppression" and by suggesting that the Mossad is the instigator of these crimes.
The Palestinian leaders refuse to arrest the perpetrators or instigators of attacks, especially within Hamas or Islamic Jihad.
They free those in prison, encourage indiscriminate violence and glorify the "martyrs" who carry out suicide attacks.
They educate children to hate through textbooks paid for by the European Union containing paroxysmal hatred.
Several attacks were carried out by factions of the Palestinian Authority, which is a shame considering that Oslo involved renouncing violence.
Does Israel practice "state terrorism"?
1. Israel does not practice "state terrorism" because it never targets people who are not combatants in action.
Nonetheless, in more than 50 years of retaliation, there has been collateral damage that has always been the subject of apology requests.
It should be noted that one of the strategies of the Palestinians is to put forward, even as human shields, their civilian populations and their children.
This serves as fuel for a miserable propaganda which are fond of several media respecting an anti-Zionist line, in accordance with the realpolitik of their states of membership.
2. The USA and European states are also responsible for collateral damage in Kosovo and Afghanistan. Since the attacks of Bin Laden of September 11, 2001, they join the Israeli position and consider that it is legitimate to exercise reprisals against the States which shelter terrorists.
3. YES, Israel seeks to physically eliminate the instigators and perpetrators of the attacks that the Palestinian Authority refuses to stop by protecting them against the action of justice.
The notion of "state terrorism" is in fact an Arab propaganda term to trivialize Palestinian terrorism.